# Base Elements False Errors

**URL:** <https://the.fmsoup.org/t/base-elements-false-errors/3985>\
**Category:** Questions\
**Tags:** optimization\
**Created:** [February 18, 2024, 12:03am UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/base-elements-false-errors/3985 "2024-02-18T00:03:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![steverichter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/steverichter/32/1022_2.png) [@steverichter](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/steverichter)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 12:03am UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/base-elements-false-errors/3985/1 "2024-02-18T00:03:09Z")

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The Base Elements analysis tool is reporting an “element” that refers to a field which no longer exists. When I edit the applicable layout, there is no field in the location specified by BE. Anyone see this bug in BE before?

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**Author:** ![bdbd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/bdbd/32/620_2.png) [@bdbd](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/bdbd)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 1:25am UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/base-elements-false-errors/3985/2 "2024-02-18T01:25:01Z")

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It may be that Base Elements is not the culprit seeing as it imports the DDR. I have seen something similar in both the HTML and XML versions of the DDR.

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**Author:** ![steve\_ssh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/steve_ssh/32/160_2.png) [@steve\_ssh](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/steve_ssh)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 3:51am UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/base-elements-false-errors/3985/3 "2024-02-18T03:51:26Z")

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Not saying that this is always the explanation, but it's helpful to know what can happen if the referenced element resides within a popover element:

The coordinates for the referenced element may be reported within the DDR in a way that makes you think that the item should be there on the layout, but really, the item is contained within a popover element which is positioned somewhere else with entirely different coordinates. As such, you won't see the element if you just go looking for it using the coordinates.

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**Author:** ![Malcolm](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/malcolm/32/196_2.png) [@Malcolm](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/Malcolm)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 6:18pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/base-elements-false-errors/3985/4 "2024-02-18T18:18:59Z")

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It is absolutely going to be on a popover. (And because popovers will display anywhere they like, it seems right that the xml reports a figure that doesn’t make sense)

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**Author:** ![steverichter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/steverichter/32/1022_2.png) [@steverichter](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/steverichter)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 6:32pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/base-elements-false-errors/3985/5 "2024-02-18T18:32:51Z")

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The original developer populated this layout with numerous tab panels and popovers. However, I deleted them all because they are no longer necessary. Perhaps some vestiges of these tabs remain — like Marley’s ghost — to haunt the DDR.

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**Author:** ![Malcolm](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/malcolm/32/196_2.png) [@Malcolm](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/Malcolm)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 9:19pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/base-elements-false-errors/3985/6 "2024-02-18T21:19:11Z")

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The object inspector will help. Tell it to show only popovers. They are often sized at small sizes, like 1px x 1px, to minimise the chance that a user triggers them accidentally.