# Claris Pro replacing FileMaker Pro?

**URL:** <https://the.fmsoup.org/t/claris-pro-replacing-filemaker-pro/3160>\
**Category:** ConstructiveTalk\
**Created:** [October 22, 2022, 3:09pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/claris-pro-replacing-filemaker-pro/3160 "2022-10-22T15:09:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![planteg](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/planteg/32/627_2.png) [@planteg](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/planteg)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2022, 2:10pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/claris-pro-replacing-filemaker-pro/3160/21 "2022-10-26T14:10:16Z")

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> [@Bobino](#):
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> If someone has documentation about Draco having been torn out, I would be curious to see the source of that, as it can be problematic to follow everything being said about this.

In his presentation at CQDF in Sept. 2022, Douglas talked about the limitations of Draco, he didn't used _ **torn** _, but he explained that Draco is getting harder and harder to modify. I see it as Draco technology has been exploited at its maximum.

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**Author:** ![Bobino](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/bobino/32/194_2.png) [@Bobino](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/Bobino)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2022, 2:19pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/claris-pro-replacing-filemaker-pro/3160/22 "2022-10-26T14:19:31Z")

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Claris clearly believe they can get more mileage out of their new stack that includes MongoDB.

That said, when people are looking at comparing Claris Pro and FileMaker Pro, we have to be cautious about the information we share. What do we have that we can point to as a source?

We need to be accurate in our statements, each one of us. Not everyone is welcoming this type of change, and saying that Claris Pro is doing away with the db engine FileMaker has used for years can lead some community members to be more apprehensive than required if that tech has not been deprecated.

Everything I heard from Claris leads me to believe Draco is there to stay, and that they will work on making interactions with MongoDB as seamless as possible. There is a big difference in that approach and saying that Draco is being torn off and replaced by something else.

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**Author:** ![planteg](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/planteg/32/627_2.png) [@planteg](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/planteg)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2022, 2:48pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/claris-pro-replacing-filemaker-pro/3160/23 "2022-10-26T14:48:50Z")

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> [@Bobino](#):
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> We need to be accurate in our statements, each one of us. Not everyone is welcoming this type of change, and saying that Claris Pro is doing away with the db engine FileMaker has used for years can lead some community members to be more apprehensive than required if that tech has not been deprecated.

Absolutely.

> [@Bobino](#):
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> Everything I heard from Claris leads me to believe Draco is there to stay, and that they will work on making interactions with MongoDB as seamless as possible. There is a big difference in that approach and saying that Draco is being torn off and replaced by something else.

Claris Pro works with Draco, so it's not gone.

> [@Bobino](#):
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> saying that Draco is being torn off and replaced by something else.

Draco is replaced in Claris Studio, not in Claris Pro, and these two products can connect to the other one. That interaction is in it's beginning and will get better in the time.

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**Author:** ![Malcolm](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/malcolm/32/196_2.png) [@Malcolm](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/Malcolm)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2022, 9:32pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/claris-pro-replacing-filemaker-pro/3160/24 "2022-10-26T21:32:57Z")

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> [@cheesus](#):
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> - Drop the idea of a low code platform.

FileMaker has always been a no-code or low-code platform. It knows what that means, more than many other companies.

The major limitation that I have experienced with Claris is that I wanted FileMaker to be an app-development platform. When I see [https://www.appgyver.com/](https://www.appgyver.com/) or [https://bubble.io](https://bubble.io) I wish it was Claris.

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**Author:** ![FileKraft](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/filekraft/32/1183_2.png) [@FileKraft](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/FileKraft)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 6:08pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/claris-pro-replacing-filemaker-pro/3160/25 "2022-10-27T18:08:18Z")

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> [@planteg](#):
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> Draco is replaced in Claris Studio, not in Claris Pro,

Claris Studio is a different entity and never had Draco integrated. Its database engine is MongoDB ..

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**Author:** ![Malcolm](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/malcolm/32/196_2.png) [@Malcolm](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/Malcolm)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2022, 1:41am UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/claris-pro-replacing-filemaker-pro/3160/26 "2022-11-03T01:41:27Z")

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David Head, of uLearnIT, has posted a [Claris Pro comparison with FileMaker Pro](https://ulearnit.medium.com/claris-platform-pro-comparison-ea2babc85c5d) over at Medium.

_David Head was Claris' Engineer in the APAC region for many years_

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**Author:** ![Torsten](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/torsten/32/1574_2.png) [@Torsten](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/Torsten)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2022, 8:35am UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/claris-pro-replacing-filemaker-pro/3160/27 "2022-11-03T08:35:45Z")

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> [@Malcolm](#):
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> The major limitation that I have experienced with Claris is that I wanted FileMaker to be an app-development platform

Absolutely agree. FileMaker is doing a lot of things in the background, which is good for the lower end of low-code. Unfortunately, it does not give developers more control when required. The creation of 'Claris Pro' offers the opportunity to get that right.

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