# FileMaker Cloud Essentials arrived **URL:** \ **Category:** in the News\ **Tags:** cloud, fmcloud\ **Created:** [January 22, 2020, 8:58pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/filemaker-cloud-essentials-arrived/703 "2020-01-22T20:58:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Markus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b782af/32.png) [@Markus](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/Markus)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 11:57am UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/filemaker-cloud-essentials-arrived/703/21 "2020-01-24T11:57:43Z")
there is one thing one often forgets: FM is multi-user, but by far not multi-developer.. If You develop by two or more colleagues, You will be driven mad with all those 'layout locked..' (much more) But for small groups of users, this might good - if they have one-file solutions ---
**Author:** ![WimDecorte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b19c9b/32.png) [@WimDecorte](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/WimDecorte)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 2:02pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/filemaker-cloud-essentials-arrived/703/22 "2020-01-24T14:02:45Z")
> [@Markus](#): > > FM is multi-user, but by far not multi-developer. It's not ideal but it is certainly not a blocker. We have 30+ full time FM developers on staff and a lot of our projects involve 2-4 or more developers (especially if in-house developers are involved too) and we are never driven mad 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Markus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b782af/32.png) [@Markus](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/Markus)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 2:13pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/filemaker-cloud-essentials-arrived/703/23 "2020-01-24T14:13:32Z")
we have multi-file solutions - this helps a lot... ---
**Author:** ![FMUSER01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a8b319/32.png) [@FMUSER01](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/FMUSER01)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 3:51pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/filemaker-cloud-essentials-arrived/703/24 "2020-01-24T15:51:28Z")
> [@TomD](#): > > I agree. The other terms don't provide a very meaningful description - indeed, they are likely to cause confusion. Something we would all agree on is that terminology is very important. > [@steve\_ssh](#): > > Usually it requires someone to tell me " _hey, old man, we don't call it that anymore_ " for me to get with the program and adopt the most recent nomenclature. Exactly my thoughts as well as many other's as of late. Terms seem to stem from "opposite day" and "alternative facts." ---
**Author:** ![Fred](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/fred/32/269_2.png) [@Fred](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/Fred)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2020, 5:53pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/filemaker-cloud-essentials-arrived/703/25 "2020-01-27T17:53:35Z")
One major point is still an issue **from 5** users Hopeless… ---
**Author:** ![ernst](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9f8e36/32.png) [@ernst](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/ernst)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2020, 7:55pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/filemaker-cloud-essentials-arrived/703/26 "2020-01-27T19:55:31Z")
That's indeed a pity. ---
**Author:** ![Malcolm](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/malcolm/32/196_2.png) [@Malcolm](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/Malcolm)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2020, 11:05pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/filemaker-cloud-essentials-arrived/703/27 "2020-01-27T23:05:44Z")
I'm assuming that it's hard to cover the costs if there are less than five users. The only thing that makes me jealous is that it is built on AWS infrastructure, so you have to be in the right location and/or jurisdiction to take advantage of it. ---
**Author:** ![jormond](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/35a633/32.png) [@jormond](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/jormond)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2020, 12:48am UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/filemaker-cloud-essentials-arrived/703/28 "2020-01-28T00:48:51Z")
I don't remember if it was talked about here, or another venue, but likely the annual commitments allows Claris to get the rates down lower. While I believe there are ways to manage that, I imagine that is the reason for the annual and not monthly stuff. As for the number of users, I definitely think it is related to the AWS costs, and their own internal costs. I've seen a few companies handle this, with some creative approaches, but I'm not sure they all work at scale. ---
**Author:** ![AndyHibbs](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/andyhibbs/32/3089_2.png) [@AndyHibbs](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/AndyHibbs)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2020, 7:08am UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/filemaker-cloud-essentials-arrived/703/29 "2020-01-28T07:08:11Z")
Fundamentally their licensing restrictions and security issues with shared hosting, hence having to fund the whole cost of a dedicated VM. ---
**Author:** ![Torsten](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/torsten/32/1574_2.png) [@Torsten](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/Torsten)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2020, 7:29am UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/filemaker-cloud-essentials-arrived/703/30 "2020-01-28T07:29:17Z")
There is no mentioning of a dedicated VM or any other separation technique in FM Cloud. How this cloud assures due separation of customer data remains opaque. Many cloud vendors had their snafus were data was accidentally shown to unauthorised parties. ---
**Author:** ![MonkeybreadSoftware](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/monkeybreadsoftware/32/361_2.png) [@MonkeybreadSoftware](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/MonkeybreadSoftware)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2020, 9:04am UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/filemaker-cloud-essentials-arrived/703/31 "2020-01-28T09:04:49Z")
We still wait for a list of data centers. Some people asked about Cloud since the essentials offer started. And at the FileMaker conference in Hamburg they mentioned the idea that some FBA maybe allowed to buy seats packs and split them up, so they could sell \<5 seats to clients. Let's see what's coming with FM 19 in May. ---
**Author:** ![jwilling](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/jwilling/32/256_2.png) [@jwilling](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/jwilling)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2020, 9:13am UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/filemaker-cloud-essentials-arrived/703/32 "2020-01-28T09:13:12Z")
They should just do what every other company does and offer monthly billing at slightly more $. ---
**Author:** ![AndyHibbs](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/andyhibbs/32/3089_2.png) [@AndyHibbs](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/AndyHibbs)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2020, 9:40am UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/filemaker-cloud-essentials-arrived/703/33 "2020-01-28T09:40:09Z")
Agreed ---
**Author:** ![MonkeybreadSoftware](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/monkeybreadsoftware/32/361_2.png) [@MonkeybreadSoftware](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/MonkeybreadSoftware)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2020, 10:26am UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/filemaker-cloud-essentials-arrived/703/34 "2020-01-28T10:26:25Z")
Marie answered and as far as I read there are not yet European data centers available. So we'll have to wait a bit longer till Claris starts Cloud in Europe. ---
**Author:** ![jormond](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/35a633/32.png) [@jormond](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/jormond)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2020, 5:10pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/filemaker-cloud-essentials-arrived/703/35 "2020-01-28T17:10:07Z")
> [@Torsten](#): > > There is no mentioning of a dedicated VM or any other separation technique in FM Cloud. FileMaker Cloud 2.0 spins up an AWS instance with a Linux OS and FileMaker Cloud server install. That's all it is. You upload your files to it. It IS FileMaker Server running in a VM. ---
**Author:** ![Torsten](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/torsten/32/1574_2.png) [@Torsten](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/Torsten)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2020, 5:14pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/filemaker-cloud-essentials-arrived/703/36 "2020-01-28T17:14:18Z")
Thanks @jormond, do you have a link to official information? ---
**Author:** ![WimDecorte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b19c9b/32.png) [@WimDecorte](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/WimDecorte)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2020, 5:37pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/filemaker-cloud-essentials-arrived/703/37 "2020-01-28T17:37:59Z")
See: [FileMaker Cloud FAQ — FileMaker](https://www.filemaker.com/purchase/store/faq-cloud.html) scroll down to the "How much processing power and memory comes with my FileMaker Cloud subscription?" The describe the instance type they spin up for you based on your subscription. If you are familiar with FM Cloud 1.0, where you also get your own instance: FM Cloud 2.0 is the same thing but instead of running in your own AWS account, it all runs in Claris' AWS account so that they can add all the DevOps stuff like monitoring and moving instances when needed. ---
**Author:** ![jormond](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/35a633/32.png) [@jormond](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/jormond)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2020, 5:38pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/filemaker-cloud-essentials-arrived/703/38 "2020-01-28T17:38:00Z")
This most of it. [FileMakerPKB](https://support.filemaker.com/s/article/FileMaker-Cloud-FAQ?language=en_US) The bit about a VM is partially deduction, and partially conversations with people at Claris. ---
**Author:** ![Torsten](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/torsten/32/1574_2.png) [@Torsten](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/Torsten)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2020, 6:11pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/filemaker-cloud-essentials-arrived/703/39 "2020-01-28T18:11:28Z")
Thanks, @WimDecorte, @jormond. ---
**Author:** ![harvest](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/harvest/32/231_2.png) [@harvest](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/harvest)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2020, 9:41am UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/filemaker-cloud-essentials-arrived/703/40 "2020-01-29T09:41:32Z")
Last october in Hamburg at the FMK Shrini asked the audience wether we'd like to get hands on a Linux version of FMS. He said they had at that time a VM of a CentOS/FMS in development. I suppose that is the environment for Cloud2. I think feedback was a bit lame because many of us didn't really get the idea, partly related to the language barrier. Maybe we will see a packaged VM instance for on premise ESX which would be really great. Holger [Previous page](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/filemaker-cloud-essentials-arrived/703.md?page=1) [Next page](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/filemaker-cloud-essentials-arrived/703.md?page=3)