# FM Roadmap **URL:** \ **Category:** Corporate Announcements\ **Tags:** roadmap\ **Created:** [October 31, 2020, 7:34am UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fm-roadmap/1417 "2020-10-31T07:34:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Torsten](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/torsten/32/1574_2.png) [@Torsten](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/Torsten)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 7:34am UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fm-roadmap/1417/1 "2020-10-31T07:34:05Z")
While still available on YouTube, the roadmap presentation is no longer mentioned on Claris websites. Does anyone know if there will be a roadmap session this year? ---
**Author:** ![planteg](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/planteg/32/627_2.png) [@planteg](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/planteg)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 4:15pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fm-roadmap/1417/2 "2020-10-31T16:15:53Z")
Good question. I remind the last one was . . . non informative 😮, compared to previous ones. I hope if there is one, that it will be useful. One issue that would be nice if fixed is how come upgrading is so shaky ? They changed the way updates will be released and looking at the last FMP and FMS updates, Claris does not seem to master the discipline. ---
**Author:** ![MonkeybreadSoftware](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/monkeybreadsoftware/32/361_2.png) [@MonkeybreadSoftware](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/MonkeybreadSoftware)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 5:29pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fm-roadmap/1417/3 "2020-10-31T17:29:32Z")
Didn't they say recently in a webinar, that with the agile approach, it's more like they throw out soon what they have instead of planning 2 years ahead? ---
**Author:** ![planteg](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/planteg/32/627_2.png) [@planteg](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/planteg)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 8:22pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fm-roadmap/1417/4 "2020-10-31T20:22:24Z")
Maybe, I don't recall. But for sure they have some kind of roadmap, they need to plan what they want to add or change. ---
**Author:** ![jormond](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/35a633/32.png) [@jormond](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/jormond)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2020, 1:34am UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fm-roadmap/1417/5 "2020-11-01T01:34:02Z")
There is definitely an aspect of the roadmap that is not possible to Roadmap it the same way. I've had some discussion with Claris peoples about ideas I, and others, have had about what would be helpful to us as development professionals. I imagine getting that off the ground, and published, will take some time. There is a LOT of NEW at Claris International HQ going on. So we do need to be patient. ---
**Author:** ![Torsten](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/torsten/32/1574_2.png) [@Torsten](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/Torsten)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2020, 8:12am UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fm-roadmap/1417/6 "2020-11-01T08:12:14Z")
@jormond, I understand that there is no Roadmap presentation/publication planned for the foreseable future. ---
**Author:** ![FileKraft](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/filekraft/32/1183_2.png) [@FileKraft](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/FileKraft)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2020, 5:01pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fm-roadmap/1417/7 "2020-11-02T17:01:10Z")
sounds like there is a roadmap for insiders ... ---
**Author:** ![jormond](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/35a633/32.png) [@jormond](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/jormond)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2020, 5:32pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fm-roadmap/1417/8 "2020-11-02T17:32:31Z")
Other than the ETS program, there is not. We are only seeing things as they get added to the builds for testing. ---
**Author:** ![MonkeybreadSoftware](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/monkeybreadsoftware/32/361_2.png) [@MonkeybreadSoftware](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/MonkeybreadSoftware)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2020, 5:48pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fm-roadmap/1417/9 "2020-11-02T17:48:47Z")
Well, they said in the Claris Engage videos a few things. ---
**Author:** ![dbguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@dbguy](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/dbguy)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2020, 8:30pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fm-roadmap/1417/10 "2020-11-02T20:30:48Z")
I wouldn’t expect too much from Claris on a FM roadmap. It’s not their focus right now. They are now working on the new NG product and on Connect and not so much on FM. ---
**Author:** ![planteg](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/planteg/32/627_2.png) [@planteg](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/planteg)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2020, 8:53pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fm-roadmap/1417/11 "2020-11-02T20:53:05Z")
> [@dbguy](#): > > and not so much on FM Sigh, this explains that. ---
**Author:** ![MonkeybreadSoftware](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/monkeybreadsoftware/32/361_2.png) [@MonkeybreadSoftware](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/MonkeybreadSoftware)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2020, 8:55pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fm-roadmap/1417/12 "2020-11-02T20:55:41Z")
any news on the move to a different office building? ---
**Author:** ![dbguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@dbguy](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/dbguy)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2020, 8:58pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fm-roadmap/1417/13 "2020-11-02T20:58:30Z")
I’ve been told they are out of there by January. ---
**Author:** ![Torsten](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/torsten/32/1574_2.png) [@Torsten](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/Torsten)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 2:11am UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fm-roadmap/1417/14 "2020-11-03T02:11:07Z")
Unfortunately, FM doesn't get much love at the moment. I really do hope they will not start seeing it as a burden. [https://www.theregister.com/2020/10/28/sap\_new\_strategy/](https://www.theregister.com/2020/10/28/sap_new_strategy/) Just counted the 50 latest posts on 'Claris Community'. All, except one, are about FileMaker. This is what people care about, what they need. ---
**Author:** ![dbguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@dbguy](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/dbguy)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 4:34am UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fm-roadmap/1417/15 "2020-11-03T04:34:28Z")
Since the new executive team took over, it has been their objective to move to Cloud. There is some stuff that they have been wanting to do but the engineers aren’t available. IMHO I think it’s a huge mistake as they are taking MS, Amazon, Google and airtable head on without a real differentiator. ---
**Author:** ![Torsten](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/torsten/32/1574_2.png) [@Torsten](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/Torsten)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 4:51am UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fm-roadmap/1417/16 "2020-11-03T04:51:40Z")
That FM development lacks resources is clearly visible. ---
**Author:** ![Fred](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/fred/32/269_2.png) [@Fred](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/Fred)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 8:37am UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fm-roadmap/1417/17 "2020-11-03T08:37:20Z")
I was one of the first to say FM is dead. Said that when i saw the first webinar that talked about Claris Connect and where we almost did not understand anything from the speech. However, FM customer provide most of the actual revenues. And that is a true feeling that FM is in maintenance stage just to continue perceive these $. My biggest hope (dream?) is that one other smart company will built a brand new product "FM-like" and being a real AND MODERN alternative for the majority of historic FM developers. Thus, the forgotten and lucrative customers coud finally abandon Claris and be well treated elsewhere. ---
**Author:** ![Mark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/mark/32/762_2.png) [@Mark](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/Mark)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 12:25pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fm-roadmap/1417/18 "2020-11-03T12:25:07Z")
Wow - sounds like challenging times ahead for FM. Very sad - they have an opportunity to grow this but the licensing is so expensive they can't compete with other tools (that do take more time and effort on the part of the developer for sure). Killing the runtime was a huge mistake. ---
**Author:** ![Mark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/mark/32/762_2.png) [@Mark](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/Mark)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 12:27pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fm-roadmap/1417/19 "2020-11-03T12:27:01Z")
Well I'm enjoying Xojo for sure. It's a much more intensive programming challenge but the frameworks are solid and some really good new features in the last couple of releases plus the next release which is in beta testing at the moment. ---
**Author:** ![Mark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/mark/32/762_2.png) [@Mark](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/Mark)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 12:32pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fm-roadmap/1417/20 "2020-11-03T12:32:19Z")
A huge mistake. [Next page](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fm-roadmap/1417.md?page=2)