# FMS 18.02 WebDirect / CWP **URL:** \ **Category:** Heads-Up!\ **Created:** [July 23, 2019, 7:44pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fms-18-02-webdirect-cwp/238 "2019-07-23T19:44:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Torsten](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/torsten/32/1574_2.png) [@Torsten](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/Torsten)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 11:12am UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fms-18-02-webdirect-cwp/238/21 "2019-07-26T11:12:56Z")
If someone would seek discourse with an entity in order to understand their ways, he/she can engage with said entity directly through the official channel. Members here may not look for insight into policy matters while discussing the technical, contractual matter at hand. ---
**Author:** ![anon45965781](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/13edae/32.png) [@anon45965781](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/anon45965781)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 11:46am UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fms-18-02-webdirect-cwp/238/22 "2019-07-26T11:46:08Z")
Well put. ---
**Author:** ![Markus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b782af/32.png) [@Markus](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/Markus)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 12:20pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fms-18-02-webdirect-cwp/238/23 "2019-07-26T12:20:43Z")
just as an addition to the original posting: It is somehow not-easy to find anything in the salesforce forum - but: Accidentaly, I found 2 similar postings concerning FMS 17.03 an later and concerning FMS 17.01/02… [https://support.filemaker.com/s/article/Changes-to-Java-in-FileMaker-Server-17-0-3-and-17-0-4?language=en\_US](https://support.filemaker.com/s/article/Changes-to-Java-in-FileMaker-Server-17-0-3-and-17-0-4?language=en_US) Today in the early morning, I was able to find this when searching in the forums - but now, I had to search on the support site 🙃 There is a similar document concerning FMS17.01/02 ---
**Author:** ![jormond](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/35a633/32.png) [@jormond](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/jormond)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 12:58pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fms-18-02-webdirect-cwp/238/24 "2019-07-26T12:58:23Z")
It’s funny you say that. I was thinking the same thing. It also betrays that you’ve assumed meaning behind a series of events, in which you are missing large chunks of information. Either way it’s fine. Hope you have a good weekend. ---
**Author:** ![Torsten](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/torsten/32/1574_2.png) [@Torsten](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/Torsten)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 1:18pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fms-18-02-webdirect-cwp/238/25 "2019-07-26T13:18:35Z")
Have a good weekend, too. ---
**Author:** ![anon45965781](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/13edae/32.png) [@anon45965781](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/anon45965781)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 5:11pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fms-18-02-webdirect-cwp/238/26 "2019-07-26T17:11:54Z")
FWIW, I just installed/updated the JDK/JRE 8 version on my AWS Win 2016 testing server with Amazon Corretto openJDK 8. FMS 18 works fine with this Java version (211) and WebDirect works fine as well. I realize this post was about CWP, which I’ve never used, but wanted to update this thread. The install took about 30 seconds and, at least in this case, stops _some_ corporate greed. 🙂 (the power of open source!) ---
**Author:** ![Markus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b782af/32.png) [@Markus](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/Markus)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 5:39pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fms-18-02-webdirect-cwp/238/27 "2019-07-26T17:39:07Z")
not just cwp - also webdirect. Both these components needs java ---
**Author:** ![anon45965781](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/13edae/32.png) [@anon45965781](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/anon45965781)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 5:51pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fms-18-02-webdirect-cwp/238/28 "2019-07-26T17:51:25Z")
Yep. Implicit in my posting was that I did not do the separate install (since I do not use CWP), but WebDirect worked fine after the updated Java install as I noted above. ---
**Author:** ![Torsten](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/torsten/32/1574_2.png) [@Torsten](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/Torsten)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 7:33am UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fms-18-02-webdirect-cwp/238/29 "2019-07-27T07:33:27Z")
This week I migrated my development server and a customer’s production server to OpenJDK8. Using the instructions provided by FMI (thank you @Markus) it was easy and quick to do. However, this would be way over the head of my customers. ---
**Author:** ![Markus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b782af/32.png) [@Markus](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/Markus)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 7:42am UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fms-18-02-webdirect-cwp/238/30 "2019-07-27T07:42:17Z")
that’s my feeling too - t is too complicated for Joe Doe - users Does anybody know what a license of java costs? I visited the oracle site, but that’s one of those sites that places a popover all over the screen (iPad) telling me something about cookies they ‘need’ - for me, absolutely no-go… (at that time, no cookies are needed…) ---
**Author:** ![anon45965781](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/13edae/32.png) [@anon45965781](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/anon45965781)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 10:15am UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fms-18-02-webdirect-cwp/238/31 "2019-07-27T10:15:55Z")
Forget the Oracle site. Why not use the free options like the openJDK or Corretto (an Amazon-managed open/free openJDK version)? The Oracle_rip-off_ is $300/yr. Zero reason that I can see to be extorted by that greedy company as well. Here’s the current (FREE) openJDK version: [JDK 12.0.2 GA Release](https://jdk.java.net/12/) (Above, I posted the similar link to Amazon Corretto which is also FREE and maintained) (Version 13 coming soon). They also have the really, really old JDK 8, but still supported, for FMP usage. * * * After running the Corretto SDK install for JDK 11, it also installs the JRE. **$ java -version** openjdk version “11.0.4” 2019-07-16 LTS OpenJDK Runtime Environment Corretto-11.0.4.11.1 (build 11.0.4+11-LTS) OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM Corretto-11.0.4.11.1 (build 11.0.4+11-LTS, mixed mode) ---
**Author:** ![Markus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b782af/32.png) [@Markus](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/Markus)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 11:57am UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fms-18-02-webdirect-cwp/238/32 "2019-07-27T11:57:15Z")
The question was just to know what it would cost - in case any customer want’s to know ---
**Author:** ![jormond](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/35a633/32.png) [@jormond](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/jormond)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 12:09pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fms-18-02-webdirect-cwp/238/33 "2019-07-27T12:09:04Z")
OpenJDK is also Oracle. ---
**Author:** ![anon45965781](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/13edae/32.png) [@anon45965781](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/anon45965781)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 12:42pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fms-18-02-webdirect-cwp/238/34 "2019-07-27T12:42:12Z")
I guess you didn’t read my posting above where I said Oracle wants $300/yr for a server license? 🙂 The complete pricing is easily available on the Oracle site. Start here: [Java SE Subscription FAQ](https://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javaseproducts/overview/javasesubscriptionfaq-4891443.html) ---
**Author:** ![anon45965781](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/13edae/32.png) [@anon45965781](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/anon45965781)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 12:42pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fms-18-02-webdirect-cwp/238/35 "2019-07-27T12:42:45Z")
Brilliant! LOL ---
**Author:** ![harvest](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/harvest/32/231_2.png) [@harvest](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/harvest)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 1:19pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fms-18-02-webdirect-cwp/238/36 "2019-07-27T13:19:32Z")
for europe the first cpu costs 269,-EUR without VAT, for switzerland you will - as always - have special pricing 🙂 intresting to see cpu-based pricing for JAVA too, same as with Oracle DBs ---
**Author:** ![Markus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b782af/32.png) [@Markus](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/Markus)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 3:08pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fms-18-02-webdirect-cwp/238/37 "2019-07-27T15:08:47Z")
Thank You! Will check that all out (‘first cpu’ …). A small company with one filemaker server will probably have to pay ~300 CHF per year… ---
**Author:** ![Markus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b782af/32.png) [@Markus](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/Markus)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 3:12pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fms-18-02-webdirect-cwp/238/38 "2019-07-27T15:12:22Z")
Thank You - and Sorry - I overlooked that 😕 there is a small drawback when answering a posting on a discourse-website on iPad - when entering text (keyboard active), there is no way to read the posting that You are answering (one has to close the keyboard to scroll upwards…) ---
**Author:** ![anon45965781](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/13edae/32.png) [@anon45965781](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/anon45965781)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 3:51pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fms-18-02-webdirect-cwp/238/39 "2019-07-27T15:51:08Z")
No worries. Here’s a mind-map which may help others too: ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/fmsoup/original/1X/63911524ecd1c4fd70e0a4ac1ccaea52c4a45c60.png) ---
**Author:** ![dvaklyes](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/dvaklyes/32/3143_2.png) [@dvaklyes](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/dvaklyes)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 8:34pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fms-18-02-webdirect-cwp/238/40 "2019-07-27T20:34:48Z")
I might be wrong, but my reading of the [_Oracle Java SE Subscription Global Price List_](http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/pricing/price-lists/java-se-subscription-pricelist-5028356.pdf) and [_Oracle Processor Core Factor Table_](http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/contracts/processor-core-factor-table-070634.pdf) documents is that the price is based on the number of processor cores, not per machine. So if you have an i7 quad-core processor (8 virtual cores) the price is $1200 per year. My server is a 12-core (24 virtual) Xeon which is $3600 per year. While both of those might be off a factor of 2 either way, according to this article [https://blog.joda.org/2018/08/java-is-still-available-at-zero-cost.html](https://blog.joda.org/2018/08/java-is-still-available-at-zero-cost.html) the Oracle build is based on OpenJDK, as is the AdoptOpenJDK build, why in the world would we want to pay Oracle? [Previous page](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fms-18-02-webdirect-cwp/238.md?page=1) [Next page](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fms-18-02-webdirect-cwp/238.md?page=3)