# FMS18v4 Out - Data restoration status? **URL:** \ **Category:** Questions\ **Tags:** default-feature\ **Created:** [March 24, 2020, 8:24pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fms18v4-out-data-restoration-status/831 "2020-03-24T20:24:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Mac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@Mac](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/Mac)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2020, 8:52pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fms18v4-out-data-restoration-status/831/21 "2020-03-26T20:52:28Z")
That was my first instinct as well, then I had flashbacks to problems caused by solutions to non-existent problems. 90% of the issues I've had with FMS17 and FMS18 started with me inputting a command into the CLI and having everything become non-responsive. So I'm a bit torn on taking action. ---
**Author:** ![FileKraft](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/filekraft/32/1183_2.png) [@FileKraft](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/FileKraft)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2020, 9:51pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fms18v4-out-data-restoration-status/831/22 "2020-03-26T21:51:39Z")
Never had any issues with the CLI on Windows though. The instructions are simple. Just read carefully.. ---
**Author:** ![Mac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@Mac](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/Mac)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2020, 10:58pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fms18v4-out-data-restoration-status/831/23 "2020-03-26T22:58:40Z")
> [@FileKraft](#): > > The instructions are simple. Just read carefully.. I don't think the CLI is difficult, I've just had several issues with it becoming unresponsive. Windows Server 2016. Reading comprehension isn't the issue. ---
**Author:** ![harvest](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/harvest/32/231_2.png) [@harvest](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/harvest)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 7:56am UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fms18v4-out-data-restoration-status/831/24 "2020-03-27T07:56:56Z")
> [@FileKraft](#): > > Never had any issues with the CLI on Windows though. ...apart from showing mistakes in the documentation / man-pages, path information is done with wrong delimiters on windows, so don't expect to be able to just copy from online docs, you will have to try as this seems to have been copied from the macOS docs ☹ ---
**Author:** ![FileKraft](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/filekraft/32/1183_2.png) [@FileKraft](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/FileKraft)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 3:35pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fms18v4-out-data-restoration-status/831/25 "2020-03-27T15:35:22Z")
my apologies ! ---
**Author:** ![WimDecorte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b19c9b/32.png) [@WimDecorte](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/WimDecorte)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 3:48pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fms18v4-out-data-restoration-status/831/26 "2020-03-27T15:48:13Z")
> [@Mac](#): > > me inputting a command into the CLI and having everything become non-responsive Can you expand a bit on that? What types of commands and did it happen on multiple servers? I pretty much live in the CLI on all the servers I touch and never had issues so I'm interested in trying to figure out what set of circumstances would make that behave like you describe. ---
**Author:** ![jormond](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/35a633/32.png) [@jormond](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/jormond)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 6:29pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fms18v4-out-data-restoration-status/831/27 "2020-03-27T18:29:46Z")
I'm curious also. The only time I've it something unresponsive is if I was closing a file that was mid-find, or a backup was running. ---
**Author:** ![Mac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@Mac](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/Mac)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 6:53pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fms18v4-out-data-restoration-status/831/28 "2020-03-27T18:53:26Z")
No worries- my reply was too defensive, so apologies from me as well. @WimDecorte That's a totally reasonably request that I can't really fulfill. It's been at least half a year since I ran into that. I probably shouldn't have mentioned it (since it implies the CLI is faulty). I mainly mentioned it off hand as a reason why I just wanted to leave well enough alone. When I have an issue with FileMaker I do try and reproduce and submit a bug report, but sometimes I just don't have time (or I can't reproduce it). ---
**Author:** ![FileKraft](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/filekraft/32/1183_2.png) [@FileKraft](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/FileKraft)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 8:42pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fms18v4-out-data-restoration-status/831/29 "2020-03-27T20:42:56Z")
is this official from Claris International Inc.? how do you know?? ---
**Author:** ![jormond](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/35a633/32.png) [@jormond](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/jormond)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 4:44pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fms18v4-out-data-restoration-status/831/30 "2020-03-28T16:44:48Z")
I'll add my thought to this, but won't try to answer for Wim. This is the "official" response from Claris: [https://support.filemaker.com/s/article/FileMaker-Server-18-Stability-Improvements?language=en\_US](https://support.filemaker.com/s/article/FileMaker-Server-18-Stability-Improvements?language=en_US) As developers, and as customers who have a relationship with Claris, we know it's not fixed. Because it's not fixed, and in my case, it's crashed so many times, turning it off is the safe move for your data. We have not had a crash since we turned off StartupRestoration/Page Locking. It's a really, really big move that they attempted. They are still heading that direction, but have found some areas in the engine that need to be changed to realize the full vision of that feature. We are piecing this together from what we see as server admins, info we have gotten from conversations with Claris staff, and what happens with other developers we are in communication with. ---
**Author:** ![Torsten](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/torsten/32/1574_2.png) [@Torsten](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/Torsten)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 1:54am UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fms18v4-out-data-restoration-status/831/31 "2020-03-30T01:54:20Z")
Marketing issued an engineering statement. ---
**Author:** ![WimDecorte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b19c9b/32.png) [@WimDecorte](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/WimDecorte)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 11:15am UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fms18v4-out-data-restoration-status/831/32 "2020-03-30T11:15:20Z")
> [@FileKraft](#): > > is this official from Claris International Inc.? how do you know?? I don't know what you are referring to... ---
**Author:** ![anon45965781](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/13edae/32.png) [@anon45965781](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/anon45965781)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 11:17am UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fms18v4-out-data-restoration-status/831/33 "2020-03-30T11:17:21Z")
Is that like when marketing limited (as no other company does) FMI's JDBC driver's functionality so it only works with FMS or a "local" copy of FMP? This restriction is simple to work around, but it never should have been there in the first place. Sorry, this comment is out of place here, perhaps, but I reacted to FMI marketing making engineering decisions. ---
**Author:** ![Cecile](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/cecile/32/98_2.png) [@Cecile](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/Cecile)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 3:02pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/fms18v4-out-data-restoration-status/831/34 "2020-03-30T15:02:49Z")
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