# Font issue when creating PDF from FileMaker **URL:** \ **Category:** Questions\ **Created:** [March 29, 2021, 4:07pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/font-issue-when-creating-pdf-from-filemaker/1975 "2021-03-29T16:07:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@Mac](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/Mac)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2021, 4:07pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/font-issue-when-creating-pdf-from-filemaker/1975/1 "2021-03-29T16:07:04Z")
A client recently created a PDF from FileMaker where the text came out looking like so: ![Screen Shot 2021-03-29 at 11.03.31 AM](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/fmsoup/original/2X/0/08944211827fcc7639fe405103fe05645b2bbfe7.png) That's just a normal paragraph of text when view in preview mode in FileMaker. The client was using a custom font, and when I had them switch to Arial the problem was solved. Anyone have any idea what causes something like that and how to fix it? FileMaker Pro 19.2.2, still waiting to hear back about which OS. Edit: it's macOS ---
**Author:** ![Cecile](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/cecile/32/98_2.png) [@Cecile](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/Cecile)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2021, 4:50pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/font-issue-when-creating-pdf-from-filemaker/1975/2 "2021-03-29T16:50:11Z")
Font needs to be embedded in file when saving as pdf. It’s a setting in pdf preference. That’s a nice Rorcharch test btw! ---
**Author:** ![Mac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@Mac](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/Mac)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2021, 4:52pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/font-issue-when-creating-pdf-from-filemaker/1975/3 "2021-03-29T16:52:56Z")
Hi Cecile- thanks for your reply. Forgive my ignorance, but what exactly do you mean 'embedded in file'? Is there a post or Claris article on that? Is the PDF preference in FileMaker or Acrobat or somewhere else? Thanks so much. ---
**Author:** ![Cecile](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/cecile/32/98_2.png) [@Cecile](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/Cecile)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2021, 4:57pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/font-issue-when-creating-pdf-from-filemaker/1975/4 "2021-03-29T16:57:13Z")
Acrobat Pro. Or the application of origin. For example, if you have a Word document and you save as pdf, you have the option to embed font. It makes for a larger file so unless keeping the custom font is necessary, changing for Helvetica is wiser. Pdf can be saved as images, as formatted text or OCRed text and as text with native encoding. If the font used isn’t installed on the operating system, pdf viewers will take the closest match. ---
**Author:** ![Cecile](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/cecile/32/98_2.png) [@Cecile](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/Cecile)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2021, 5:26pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/font-issue-when-creating-pdf-from-filemaker/1975/5 "2021-03-29T17:26:48Z")
[https://kbpdfstudio.qoppa.com/how-to-embed-fonts-in-a-pdf-document/](https://kbpdfstudio.qoppa.com/how-to-embed-fonts-in-a-pdf-document/) [http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=20060203175741232](http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=20060203175741232) ---
**Author:** ![Mac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@Mac](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/Mac)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2021, 5:49pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/font-issue-when-creating-pdf-from-filemaker/1975/6 "2021-03-29T17:49:52Z")
Thanks Cecile, I read both articles. The font "Roboto" does appear to be embedded in the manner they recommend (i.e. Type 1 or TrueType and Embedded Subset): ![Screen Shot 2021-03-29 at 12.45.52 PM](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/fmsoup/original/2X/4/4f0a25e4ad690b2bebf0fabd18b85d30286af986.png) Any thoughts? Thanks again for your help ---
**Author:** ![Mac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@Mac](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/Mac)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2021, 6:09pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/font-issue-when-creating-pdf-from-filemaker/1975/7 "2021-03-29T18:09:40Z")
I downloaded roboto on a test mac and created a doc from the same database. Everything worked fine. Looking at the properties in acrobat, the main difference I noticed is that the type is "TrueType" in my case: ![Screen Shot 2021-03-29 at 1.09.21 PM](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/fmsoup/original/2X/d/d5b0df58dd93ec262574f6c6a7f91bcdeb84068f.png) ---
**Author:** ![Cecile](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/cecile/32/98_2.png) [@Cecile](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/Cecile)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2021, 6:10pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/font-issue-when-creating-pdf-from-filemaker/1975/8 "2021-03-29T18:10:05Z")
I'm entering a meeting will check on you after. Just noticed that you are making the pdf from FM. ---
**Author:** ![mipiano](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/mipiano/32/1074_2.png) [@mipiano](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/mipiano)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2021, 6:43pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/font-issue-when-creating-pdf-from-filemaker/1975/9 "2021-03-29T18:43:21Z")
The screenshot shows that you have used old Type 1 fonts. In the newer versions of macOS, these no longer work properly. Now you should use True Type or OTF fonts. These are the current fonts types. That’s not a FileMaker issue: [http://www.jklstudios.com/misc/osxfonts.html#fontsyoucancannotuse](http://www.jklstudios.com/misc/osxfonts.html#fontsyoucancannotuse) and > **[Using PostScript Type 1 fonts with Suitcase Fusion](https://help.extensis.com/hc/en-us/articles/360052281973-Using-PostScript-Type-1-fonts-with-Suitcase-Fusion)** > > Affected versions > This article applies to Suitcase Fusion 7 (version 18) and later. > Symptoms > PostScript Type 1 fonts do not appear in some applications, and documents using Type 1 fonts do not disp... ---
**Author:** ![nihm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f9ae1b/32.png) [@nihm](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/nihm)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2021, 5:23pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/font-issue-when-creating-pdf-from-filemaker/1975/10 "2021-03-31T17:23:49Z")
Thanks so much Cecile and Mipiano! This is no doubt the solution, and I've given the client the info he needs to reinstall the newer version of the fonts. I'll update the thread if he reports back his success or failure. Edit: well this was confusing- looks like I asked the original question with an older account that I forgot I had? But yeah, that was me that asked the original question! ---
**Author:** ![mipiano](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/mipiano/32/1074_2.png) [@mipiano](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/mipiano)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2021, 8:04am UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/font-issue-when-creating-pdf-from-filemaker/1975/11 "2021-04-01T08:04:15Z")
Today I found out, that FontLab has an app for converting Type 1 Fonts into other formats: TransType. > **[TransType 4. Universal font converter by FontLab.](https://www.fontlab.com/font-converter/transtype/)** > > TransType 4. Universal font converter for Mac & Windows. Convert between OpenType, TrueType and Type 1, organize and fix font families, create @font-face CSS web fonts. Supports OTF, TTF, WOFF, EOT and many other font formats. Made by FontLab. So you don't have to buy fonts a second time. ---
**Author:** ![Cecile](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/cecile/32/98_2.png) [@Cecile](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/Cecile)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2021, 12:41pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/font-issue-when-creating-pdf-from-filemaker/1975/12 "2021-04-01T12:41:59Z")
Ask @Malcolm to merge your Mac account with this one!