# Upgrade FDS → FMS? **URL:** \ **Category:** Questions\ **Tags:** distributable, jre, ssl-certificate, install\ **Created:** [February 12, 2021, 2:20pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/upgrade-fds-fms/1685 "2021-02-12T14:20:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![OliverBarrett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f19dbf/32.png) [@OliverBarrett](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/OliverBarrett)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 2:20pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/upgrade-fds-fms/1685/1 "2021-02-12T14:20:40Z")
Is it possible to start with FDS and later upgrade it to FMS? Since the software itself is the same, as I understand it, I'm assuming that's just another license to buy and then apply. Not sure I'd get any credit for the FDS license amount paid if I upgraded to FMS in the same year, but just wondering what my options are. ---
**Author:** ![bdbd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/bdbd/32/620_2.png) [@bdbd](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/bdbd)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 2:23pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/upgrade-fds-fms/1685/2 "2021-02-12T14:23:19Z")
FMS is the same whether you obtained it with a FDS, FBA or any other license type. You simply import the new license to change from one license type to another. ---
**Author:** ![OliverBarrett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f19dbf/32.png) [@OliverBarrett](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/OliverBarrett)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 2:24pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/upgrade-fds-fms/1685/3 "2021-02-12T14:24:56Z")
Thanks ... Do you know if FMS works with two-year SSL or am I stuck with one year only? ---
**Author:** ![bdbd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/bdbd/32/620_2.png) [@bdbd](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/bdbd)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 2:25pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/upgrade-fds-fms/1685/4 "2021-02-12T14:25:30Z")
Multi-year SSL certificates work. ---
**Author:** ![OliverBarrett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f19dbf/32.png) [@OliverBarrett](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/OliverBarrett)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 2:36pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/upgrade-fds-fms/1685/5 "2021-02-12T14:36:37Z")
thanks. its so much "fun" to go through the cert process cutting that time by half is always good! ---
**Author:** ![jormond](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/35a633/32.png) [@jormond](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/jormond)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 3:10pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/upgrade-fds-fms/1685/6 "2021-02-12T15:10:10Z")
Adding a caveat... it works for now. LOL ---
**Author:** ![OliverBarrett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f19dbf/32.png) [@OliverBarrett](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/OliverBarrett)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 3:15pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/upgrade-fds-fms/1685/7 "2021-02-12T15:15:42Z")
Trying to create a CSR, from this page: [Creating a certificate signing request](https://help.claris.com/en/server-help/content/config-csr-create.html), it says: " To create a certificate signing request, use the CLI command `fmsadmin certificate create`" However, when I do that, I get this: ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/fmsoup/original/2X/c/cb13c47a54a3356ce3e4c1abec652a43e866b2fc.png) Normally when I create a CSR, I have to enter the company name and other fields. Suggestions? ---
**Author:** ![OliverBarrett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f19dbf/32.png) [@OliverBarrett](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/OliverBarrett)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 3:35pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/upgrade-fds-fms/1685/8 "2021-02-12T15:35:07Z")
Never mind...found my notes from FMS 18 SSL install. All good. ---
**Author:** ![jormond](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/35a633/32.png) [@jormond](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/jormond)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 3:38pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/upgrade-fds-fms/1685/9 "2021-02-12T15:38:08Z")
Looks like your command is missing the fqdn in the cli command. ( I know you figured this out, but thought others reading this may be curious ) ---
**Author:** ![OliverBarrett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f19dbf/32.png) [@OliverBarrett](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/OliverBarrett)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 4:16pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/upgrade-fds-fms/1685/10 "2021-02-12T16:16:14Z")
Sure. You need to use this command: **fmsadmin certificate create --keyfilepass \** I used the $4.99 / year namecheap instantssl. ---
**Author:** ![OliverBarrett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f19dbf/32.png) [@OliverBarrett](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/OliverBarrett)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 4:17pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/upgrade-fds-fms/1685/11 "2021-02-12T16:17:49Z")
I noticed that for some reason (I've opened all ports and restarted FMS several times), the Master Machine will not start. Tried moving the toggle a dozen times, restarted AWS instance, etc. What to try? ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/fmsoup/original/2X/b/b902592c4925c733c1727eb4f42c3cf924353af9.png) ---
**Author:** ![OliverBarrett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f19dbf/32.png) [@OliverBarrett](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/OliverBarrett)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2021, 2:13pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/upgrade-fds-fms/1685/12 "2021-02-13T14:13:50Z")
Fixed it. FMS running! ---
**Author:** ![planteg](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/planteg/32/627_2.png) [@planteg](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/planteg)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2021, 5:31pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/upgrade-fds-fms/1685/13 "2021-02-13T17:31:15Z")
How did you fixed it ? ---
**Author:** ![OliverBarrett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f19dbf/32.png) [@OliverBarrett](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/OliverBarrett)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2021, 6:25pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/upgrade-fds-fms/1685/14 "2021-02-13T18:25:37Z")
I had installed a JRE version (still JRE 11) that was just a tiny bit too recent. Also, the installer failed to install C++ distributable so it said I didn't have "permissions" (as administrator) to do the FMS install. I had to manually go out and install that first. So rather than being a 5 minute install it was more than 8 grueling hours. The log was useless with errors so high-level, they weren't actionable. Hope I don't need to do that install again soon. Worst install experience ever. ---
**Author:** ![jormond](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/35a633/32.png) [@jormond](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/jormond)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2021, 7:15pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/upgrade-fds-fms/1685/15 "2021-02-13T19:15:47Z")
The C++ distributable has hit a lot of us. Claris is aware of it and I'm confident that will get fixed soon. ---
**Author:** ![OliverBarrett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f19dbf/32.png) [@OliverBarrett](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/OliverBarrett)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2021, 7:26pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/upgrade-fds-fms/1685/16 "2021-02-13T19:26:20Z")
Thank you Josh! ---
**Author:** ![MonkeybreadSoftware](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/monkeybreadsoftware/32/361_2.png) [@MonkeybreadSoftware](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/MonkeybreadSoftware)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2021, 7:47pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/upgrade-fds-fms/1685/17 "2021-02-13T19:47:08Z")
Please load latest VS C++ runtime here: [https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/2977003/the-latest-supported-visual-c-downloads](https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/2977003/the-latest-supported-visual-c-downloads) You may better use that one as it brings libraries for several Visual Studio versions. ---
**Author:** ![OliverBarrett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f19dbf/32.png) [@OliverBarrett](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/OliverBarrett)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2021, 8:28pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/upgrade-fds-fms/1685/18 "2021-02-13T20:28:48Z")
My install is done. I don't want to look at that again for a "while". ☹ I'll keep your note handy, but hopefully, as @jormond said, C will fix the problem so this separate install is not necessary in the first place. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![MonkeybreadSoftware](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/monkeybreadsoftware/32/361_2.png) [@MonkeybreadSoftware](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/MonkeybreadSoftware)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2021, 8:31pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/upgrade-fds-fms/1685/19 "2021-02-13T20:31:31Z")
FileMaker Server and Pro on Windows need the VS C++ runtime 2015, I think. Eventually they will move to a newer one, 2017 or 2019. The installer referenced there on the Microsoft page installs 2015, 2017 and 2019 at once. It's just convenience and future proof. ---
**Author:** ![OliverBarrett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f19dbf/32.png) [@OliverBarrett](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/OliverBarrett)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2021, 11:39am UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/upgrade-fds-fms/1685/20 "2021-02-14T11:39:26Z")
This dependency should be managed by the FileMaker installer. Unless I'm doing C++ development, I don't want to have to worry about C++ dependencies. As @jormond said, C will fix this installer bug soon so it's something you don't have to think about (and shouldn't have to) to do an install of their product.