# What are low-code databases (FileMaker is not there . . . ) **URL:** \ **Category:** Lounge (Discussions)\ **Tags:** low-code\ **Created:** [February 16, 2021, 5:13pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/what-are-low-code-databases-filemaker-is-not-there/1699 "2021-02-16T17:13:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![planteg](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/planteg/32/627_2.png) [@planteg](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/planteg)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2021, 5:13pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/what-are-low-code-databases-filemaker-is-not-there/1699/1 "2021-02-16T17:13:21Z")
😟 Here is an article abot low-code databases [What are low-code databases? | VentureBeat](https://venturebeat.com/2021/02/15/what-are-low-code-databases/) Under **Who are the main providers ow low-code databases ?** one reads: - Access, first shipped in 1992 (29 years ago) - PowerApp, again a Microsoft product - Honeycode, from Amazon - AppSheet, from Google (in how much time will this product will shut down . . . ) As you can see, **FileMaker is not there**. I leave you with a question: why ? ---
**Author:** ![Cecile](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/cecile/32/98_2.png) [@Cecile](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/Cecile)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2021, 5:17pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/what-are-low-code-databases-filemaker-is-not-there/1699/2 "2021-02-16T17:17:26Z")
Funny. David and I had a conversation about that yesterday. Conclusion: because FileMaker is RAD not low code. Can be used low code but it is not by design. That said, I don't agree that Access is low-code. ---
**Author:** ![planteg](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/planteg/32/627_2.png) [@planteg](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/planteg)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2021, 5:23pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/what-are-low-code-databases-filemaker-is-not-there/1699/3 "2021-02-16T17:23:48Z")
> [@Cecile](#): > > That said, I don't agree that Access is low-code. Hum, for simple projects it's low code, like FileMaker. But when you need a powerful app, here comes the code. But both are much less code than going with, say' MS SQL Server. Why isn't FileMaker in their list ? ---
**Author:** ![jormond](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/35a633/32.png) [@jormond](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/jormond)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2021, 5:44pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/what-are-low-code-databases-filemaker-is-not-there/1699/4 "2021-02-16T17:44:43Z")
This is a brand awareness problem. This is specifically one of the first efforts that Britta is making to help fix that, as she outlined in the FMDISC meeting. ---
**Author:** ![planteg](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/planteg/32/627_2.png) [@planteg](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/planteg)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2021, 7:02pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/what-are-low-code-databases-filemaker-is-not-there/1699/5 "2021-02-16T19:02:09Z")
I will watch the video this afternoon. ---
**Author:** ![steverichter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/steverichter/32/1022_2.png) [@steverichter](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/steverichter)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2021, 7:22pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/what-are-low-code-databases-filemaker-is-not-there/1699/6 "2021-02-16T19:22:36Z")
Here is an interesting brand awareness announcement from Claris. [https://community.claris.com/en/s/question/0D53w00005En1trCAB/new-claris-brand-awareness-campaign](https://community.claris.com/en/s/question/0D53w00005En1trCAB/new-claris-brand-awareness-campaign) ---
**Author:** ![Torsten](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/torsten/32/1574_2.png) [@Torsten](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/Torsten)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2021, 7:39pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/what-are-low-code-databases-filemaker-is-not-there/1699/7 "2021-02-16T19:39:47Z")
Wouldn’t consider Access a low code tool. ---
**Author:** ![Bobino](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/bobino/32/194_2.png) [@Bobino](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/Bobino)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2021, 10:27pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/what-are-low-code-databases-filemaker-is-not-there/1699/8 "2021-02-16T22:27:00Z")
@planteg I'm not too concerned about the definition. That space is still defining itself, getting someone to put MS Access in there is a telling sign that people trace boundaries differently from each other. I'm more curious to see a journalist coming up with an article about who should use low-code and what for. The use cases listed in this specific article are very generic. When I see record keeping and customer interactions, just about any CRM could fit it, but that does not make them low-code platforms. Some systems will get listed and some other will not. A lineup talking about google forms, airtable and the like is at risk of leading people to think other tools face similar limitations when FileMaker is much more flexible. So I am not concerned with one article or another. I hear Claris is working on brand awareness, we will see where that goes and how it aligns itself with both the platform and the vision they have for success in a space that is getting more crowded. ---
**Author:** ![Malcolm](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/malcolm/32/196_2.png) [@Malcolm](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/Malcolm)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2021, 10:38pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/what-are-low-code-databases-filemaker-is-not-there/1699/9 "2021-02-16T22:38:48Z")
You'll find the reason on the website contact page: > Browsers, platforms, general tech news; Google and Microsoft: [Emil Protalinski](https://venturebeat.com/author/emil-protalinski/) ---
**Author:** ![planteg](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/planteg/32/627_2.png) [@planteg](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/planteg)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2021, 10:21pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/what-are-low-code-databases-filemaker-is-not-there/1699/10 "2021-02-19T22:21:54Z")
One more for the road [What is low-code and no-code? A guide to development platforms | ZDNet](https://www.zdnet.com/article/special-report-what-is-low-code-no-code-a-guide-to-development-platforms/#listicle-265e2ea1-5db4-47d6-8d15-29110086f2c8) The first one mentioned is the S word (SalesForce) see details for that product. The first sentence is > Salesforce has a long history of introducing platforms targeted exclusively to non-technical business users, and its low- and no-code solution offerings are no exception. I will not add anything, I do not want to banned by the moderators 😃. ---
**Author:** ![Bobino](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/bobino/32/194_2.png) [@Bobino](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/Bobino)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2021, 10:55pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/what-are-low-code-databases-filemaker-is-not-there/1699/11 "2021-02-19T22:55:55Z")
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**Author:** ![planteg](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/planteg/32/627_2.png) [@planteg](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/planteg)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2021, 11:14pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/what-are-low-code-databases-filemaker-is-not-there/1699/12 "2021-02-19T23:14:18Z")
I get it, it's the sale's force 🤣. ---
**Author:** ![AndyHibbs](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/andyhibbs/32/3089_2.png) [@AndyHibbs](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/AndyHibbs)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2021, 9:59am UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/what-are-low-code-databases-filemaker-is-not-there/1699/13 "2021-02-20T09:59:31Z")
A couple of interesting articles on this subject: > **[Low-code focused OutSystems raises $150M at a $9.5B valuation – TechCrunch](https://techcrunch.com/2021/02/17/low-code-focused-outsystems-raises-150m-at-a-9-5b-valuation/)** > > This morning, OutSystems, a low-code app development service, announced that it has closed $150 million in new capital. The round was led by Abdiel Capital and Tiger Global. Notably this is not the largest funding event that the Portugal and... This article is linked to the above, which includes comments from Brad Freitag: > **[What’s ahead for no-code and low-code startups? – TechCrunch](https://techcrunch.com/2020/07/30/whats-ahead-for-no-code-and-low-code-startups/)** > > Since The Exchange last checked in on the world of low- and no-code startup funding, several more interesting rounds in the niche have bubbled up. This week, TechCrunch covered a startup called Hevo raising $8 million, and Paragon, which raised a... ---
**Author:** ![cpking](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/cpking/32/1179_2.png) [@cpking](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/cpking)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2021, 1:15pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/what-are-low-code-databases-filemaker-is-not-there/1699/14 "2021-02-22T13:15:51Z")
> [@jormond](#): > > This is a brand awareness problem. Interesting to see this phrase regarding Filemaker... I had never, ever heard of FM until I did a temporary stint and they used it to manage conferences. I quickly learned the basics and some more advanced features, having spent years using Office and Access a fair amount. I'm now a big fan of FM, although some of its quirks (i.e., formatting layouts) drive me completely bonkers. ---
**Author:** ![jormond](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/35a633/32.png) [@jormond](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/jormond)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2021, 1:44pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/what-are-low-code-databases-filemaker-is-not-there/1699/15 "2021-02-22T13:44:04Z")
> [@cpking](#): > > although some of its quirks (i.e., formatting layouts) drive me completely bonkers. What about it drives you bonkers? This is really good info. ---
**Author:** ![Bobino](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/bobino/32/194_2.png) [@Bobino](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/Bobino)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2021, 7:49pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/what-are-low-code-databases-filemaker-is-not-there/1699/16 "2021-02-22T19:49:59Z")
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