# Where is the relationship going **URL:** \ **Category:** Lounge (Discussions)\ **Tags:** devcon\ **Created:** [November 10, 2019, 10:20pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/where-is-the-relationship-going/443 "2019-11-10T22:20:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Bobino](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/bobino/32/194_2.png) [@Bobino](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/Bobino)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2019, 10:20pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/where-is-the-relationship-going/443/1 "2019-11-10T22:20:44Z")
Not talking about a graph relationship. Continuing the discussion from [Interesting from Apple’s earnings report](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/interesting-from-apple-s-earnings-report/244/21): > [@Interesting from Apple’s earnings report](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/interesting-from-apple-s-earnings-report/244/21): > > After hosting providers, developers are next in line. Indeed, hearing stuff like > Dear Mr Ballmer, after this your famous "developers, developers, developers" quote is going to contain much less developers **from the mouth of Stamplay's co-founder Giuliano Iacobelli** is in line with @Torsten's comment. It is not all one-sided, as if you listen to some content, Stamplay was meant for developers. Will Claris use it to make our life easier or to make the customer's life easier: unclear at this point. Anyone who wants to be more familiar with the DNA of Stamplay (now Claris Connect) should listen to the following content: - [Pitch Event](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HozEvDrg7W0) - [Pitch event + 1 question](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wO5RHkGgZYQ) - [1 minute pitch: lego for developers](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kG2ssExSfZk) - [2014 interview, next to another startup](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IjpRK3V5Vk) - [Italian audio with english slides: 2012 - looks like they pivoted away from the gaming/loyalty part of the product](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GE4vAwPXlA) - [https://youtu.be/3ziuZEA\_wcg](https://youtu.be/3ziuZEA_wcg) The conspiracy theorist in me says to watch it before the content gets pulled away. I tagged this as 'devcon' because Stamplay's acquisition by Claris was a devcon announcement. Feel free to tag somehting else that is a better fit. ---
**Author:** ![Torsten](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/torsten/32/1574_2.png) [@Torsten](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/Torsten)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2019, 10:37pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/where-is-the-relationship-going/443/2 "2019-11-10T22:37:56Z")
Excellent research.Thanks @Bobino! ---
**Author:** ![Bobino](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/bobino/32/194_2.png) [@Bobino](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/Bobino)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2019, 10:45pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/where-is-the-relationship-going/443/3 "2019-11-10T22:45:54Z")
Basic stuff, you know, google / youtube with a company name or someone’s name can lead you to stuff people were not paying much attention to a few years back (or things that got the attention of a different crowd altogether). Same goes for twitter comments, facebook content, instagram and other such things. It gets funny when you see politicians contradict themselves in two separate quotes (about 4 years apart usually, but some are narrowing things down recently, I guess that’s for a different discourse community altogether). ---
**Author:** ![Mark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/mark/32/762_2.png) [@Mark](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/Mark)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2019, 11:31pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/where-is-the-relationship-going/443/4 "2019-11-10T23:31:51Z")
Interesting stuff. Do we have any timescales when this technology is likely to make an appearance in the FileMaker product - have they given any indications? ---
**Author:** ![Bobino](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/bobino/32/194_2.png) [@Bobino](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/Bobino)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 12:43am UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/where-is-the-relationship-going/443/5 "2019-11-11T00:43:16Z")
I don’t recall a specific date being mentioned, my bet would be first quarter of 2020, before the launch of the next release of the FileMaker product. ---
**Author:** ![Bobino](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/bobino/32/194_2.png) [@Bobino](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/Bobino)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2019, 1:48am UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/where-is-the-relationship-going/443/6 "2019-11-12T01:48:29Z")
@Mark The [product roadmap youtube video](https://youtu.be/x133NvNvnMA) confirms the intent is to release Connect in the first quarter of 2020. ETS is already ongoing. All this subject to the following disclaimer: ![19%20PM](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/fmsoup/original/1X/9cb160d532ee6922f1dd802329c9ecb86b1e1b0a.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Bobino](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/bobino/32/194_2.png) [@Bobino](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/Bobino)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2019, 12:09am UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/where-is-the-relationship-going/443/7 "2019-11-13T00:09:13Z")
@Mark Also, the [CEO Letter](https://support.filemaker.com/s/article/CEO-Letter?language=en_US) (strange that a letter has no date), mentions this on the same topic: > In January, we will launch Claris Connect for workflow automation. In May, we will launch the next major release of Claris FileMaker with lightweight web authoring. From there we will continue to release new features on a much more frequent cadence. ---
**Author:** ![Torsten](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/torsten/32/1574_2.png) [@Torsten](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/Torsten)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2019, 6:21am UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/where-is-the-relationship-going/443/8 "2019-11-13T06:21:55Z")
Marketing kills business attitude. ---
**Author:** ![FileKraft](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/filekraft/32/1183_2.png) [@FileKraft](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/FileKraft)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2019, 3:07am UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/where-is-the-relationship-going/443/9 "2019-11-14T03:07:47Z")
“… much more frequent cadence” this could only be accomplished IMHO if quality increases tremendously. Historically new features had to be handled carefully and never ready from primetime until months of bug reporting - defending and convincing to get fixed. Some users got burned when they hit update on FMcloud and lost access for days. Good luck! ---
**Author:** ![jwilling](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/jwilling/32/256_2.png) [@jwilling](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/jwilling)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2019, 7:03am UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/where-is-the-relationship-going/443/10 "2019-11-25T07:03:34Z")
That’s a good point. I think(know) there’s a flip side to this too, though. On a yearly release cycle, if you don’t have your feature ready for release, you’re faced with the prospect of having to wait a whole year before you can get it in the product, and maybe it won’t even be as exciting or relevant at that point. Therefore there is enormous pressure to rush-deliver features in a yearly cycle. A quarterly release cycle reduces pressure to get features into the product because the feature can just be released three months later if it wasn’t perfect yet. ---
**Author:** ![FileKraft](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/the.fmsoup.org/filekraft/32/1183_2.png) [@FileKraft](https://the.fmsoup.org/u/FileKraft)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2019, 3:14pm UTC](https://the.fmsoup.org/t/where-is-the-relationship-going/443/11 "2019-11-26T15:14:15Z")
Understood. By quality I meant preventing new versions with bugs like erasing fonts, scriptsteps, value lists or entire file corruption or being locked out just by hitting update button. All well reported since cycle switched to annual releasing…