Whatever the reason the FileMaker brand was to disappear, what is to prevent the same reason from happening again to the brand of Claris?
Everything is possible. But since Claris is owned by Apple, my guess is Apple will do everything to prevent that from happening.
Be reminded, Apple has owned the subsidiary for quite a long time already.
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It's not a subsidiary anymore, it's now fully owned by Apple.
Well, it was wholly owned, so I suppose fully owned may make a difference? The difference is what I'm wondering about.
Thanks for all the ideas - it sounds like my confusion was shared by many, and Claris is going a new direction. I'll mark this thread as "Solved" and perhaps after today's session about licensing, we can start some new thread(s) once we know the new roadmap.
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The video is here:
Thanks Christian, everything is in that presentation.
I watched the presentation. Too litte, too late. Too many issues remain unaddressed.
Just ended membership of the 'Claris community' and asked Claris to delete my account.
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Can you imagine how long an open and frank discussion like the one we're having here would last on the official Claris forum? LOL.
But my biggest issue is that I can never get a potential client to even consider FileMaker. No way.
I went ahead and also requested Claris delete my online account there. I doubt they care...
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This is not a reason to blast Claris though IMHO.
For which reason ?
Silencing others while plodding forward with ill conceived plans is a good reason to speak up. I spoke up directly and was booted from the FM dev program. They took offense to being called out for anti dev business practices and they could have cared less.
I used to host several clients on the same server. Worked great for years until FM demanded the end of shared servers. We lost half of our happy hosting clients due to a licensing change. Some of my smaller FM clients are ditched server over Peer to Peer or just single user. FileMaker is just too expensive for them now. Some can pay, but won't over subscription pricing and the price hikes without any extra value from FileMaker. For others, we moved them to web apps using PHP.
Everyone would be better off if Claris focused on the core product rather than spending time on products no one asked for.
It's interesting as Xojo is going thru similar problems where management won't hear out the devs. They pushed a revamp of the language and a bunch of devs begged them to not do it. But they did it anyway and are now losing customers.
I watched the presentation too. What I heard was, "sorry, we messed up". Ok, that's cool. But the new plans are very similar to the old plans. We're still going to be force fed Connect instead of focusing on the core. 
In my mind, nothing changed at all.
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I may be confused, but wasn't there supposed to be a second video yesterday focused on licensing? Did anyone watch it? What' the URL?
Claris marketing is pure consumer market methods, look and feel. This conditions how the product is now perceived by IT folks. Example: not long ago, my girlfriend talked to the IT guy of the place where she works. They need improvements in QA data recording, processing and presentation. Technically FM would be a good fit. She mentioned that I am working with FM. Hearing FM, the guy rolled eyes. The job goes to a VB developerâŚ
Also not long ago I deleted all references to âClaris FileMakerâ from my CV and reference list because it became a non-reference.
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They never understood that FileMaker (including Cloud) IS the platform. All the rest of the âClarisâ platform is pyramid-building.
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Today, Thur, Aug 31, 2023 at 1:00PM Pacific Time U.S. should be the follow-up Q&A to the earlier Tuesday livestream where FMTraining.tv presented Giuliano Iacobelli and Rick Kalman from Claris.
A link to the schedule...
https://fmtraining.tv/#LIVE
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Somebody at Claris is partly responsible for this outstanding market message...
Claris FileMaker delivers MVP support to ESPN (Complete)
...again, outstanding work.
I will overlook however, the FileMaker status bar is revealed to the end user? If so, that should never happen. Are current FM developers and Claris marketing aware of this seemingly forgotten notion?
Really impressive. Perfume commercial aesthetics.
Iâm a big fan of the default environment. In a system like that the status bar would not be exposed accidentally. I can easily imagine the developers receiving a really complex request and realising that the best solution was to train the users and allow them to play with all the tools.
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I agree. That is really strong advertising. It's a big client with a huge audience. Anyone who uses ESPN or knows what it delivers will see that as a strong recommendation.